No experience with those, but I can tell you for certain the Axxis Deluxe Advanced will dust at least 80% less than oem pads, and perform similarly to them as well. You can get them from Dave Z.
http://www.zeckhausen.com/BMW/E39.htm Scroll down. Stop Tech has a new pad as well, might be worth shooting Dave Z an email and ask him about them.

 

i love my Axxis Deluxe. my oem pads would make my wheels look dirty with only a few miles.

 

Akebono Euro pads.....hardly ANY brake dust at all and so far so good.

Ive put 8K miles along w/ slotted rotors and they stop on a dime.

 

+1 The Akebono Euro pads are a good.

Silver540it..... Whats the max you are willing to spend?

 

It`s "BRAKE" pads....

 

+1 I was just about to post that.

OP, either Akebono or OEM

 

nice point Fast Bob, I think I was thinking about the break that was coming up when I my 16 month old son goes to bed. Which I was getting ready for when I posted this question. Thanks for the suggestions, I will check them all out.

 

My max is definitely under $200 for front and back.

 

you guys recommending other pads my question is what is the noise like... especially in colder areas... my expierence having non oem pads were very good in terms of dust and biting power but were very noisy until warmed up.

 

The brand does not matter. MAKE sure you get CERAMIC PADS so there will be very little brake dust. I have Posi-Quiets that I got on eBay and they are a 199% improvement over the stock PIECE OF CRAPS that were on the car when I got it.

p.s. I've also always heard good think about HAWK brand pads. Goodluck!

 

I had used both Akebono Euro and Axxis Delux.

1. Axxis is better.

2. Axxix gives LESS dust than Akebono.

Zeckhausen is a very good source.

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Like Axis - Akebano has different pads. I recommend Akebano Euros for the the least dust, no noise, good cold stopping. They've held up through autocrossing too (not as rough as real track use).

 

I've used OEM, Axxis Deluxe & Akebono Euro (ceramic) and have found the following:

1. OEM have the best linear feel, good initial bite and no noise or cold braking issues. However, they are VERY dusty.

2. Axxis have slightly worse feel and bite but tend to squeak periodically. Rebedding will eliminate the squeak. No dust or cold braking issues.

3. Akebonos have slightly worse feel and bite than the Axxis but no sqeak and no dust. Only 2K on the Euros and it hasn't been cold yet.

Bottom line, while the feel and bite of the aftermarket pads are a bit worse than OEM, you get used to it very quickly and adapt your braking style unconsciously. It is not an issue. The reduction in dust is enough to warrant using Axxis or Akebonos over OEM. My $.02.

 

I've used OEM, Axxis Deluxe & Akebono Euro (ceramic) and have found the following:

1. OEM have the best linear feel, good initial bite and no noise or cold braking issues. However, they are VERY dusty.

2. Axxis have slightly worse feel and bite but tend to squeak periodically. Rebedding will eliminate the squeak. No dust or cold braking issues.

3. Akebonos have slightly worse feel and bite than the Axxis but no sqeak and no dust. Only 2K on the Euros and it hasn't been cold yet.

Bottom line, while the feel and bite of the aftermarket pads are a bit worse than OEM, you get used to it very quickly and adapt your braking style unconsciously. It is not an issue. The reduction in dust is enough to warrant using Axxis or Akebonos over OEM. My $.02.

Well said! :thumbup:

 

For daily driving, get the Akebono Euro. Stopping power isn't as good as OEM, but minimal brake dust after three weeks of daily driving.

 

Hi guys:

I had the same question about the pads. As always, your advice and experience are highly appreciated.
What do think about Jurid pads? I believe I have them now, and am very happy with their performance. Ton of annoying dust is offset by two tons of the biting power, and car stops on the dime. I have never had any breaks working so well, quiet and effortless. But it seems they are not that popular here. Is dust the only reason? In the meantime, Autohausaz says: "Jurid brake pads (a division of Bendix/Allied Signal) were the OE brand on BMWs throughout the 1990s and continue to be the major supplier in Europe. For fit, finish and performance, you can't do better than Jurid for your BMW".
http://www.autohausaz.com/bmw-auto-parts/bmw-parts-shopping.html

 

for daily driving use I recommend the mintex brand pads. They are very affordable and last a long time. I use them.

 

I like Mintex reds and have used them on my E30 however ... I put a set on my e39 touring and they dust pretty bad (not as bad as OEM but nowhere near "little dust" as advertised). Looking to do with Axxis or Aeko as a replacement primarily for no or low dust qualities. Suspect it is simply a factor of having the brake longer to stop a heavier car in daily driving.

FWIW, pad compounds change over the years (duh) as the Axxis Deluxe pads (PBR / Axxis) years ago were not very good and the PBR / Axxis metal masters once in favor are now out as a track pad with Porterfield, Hawk, Cool Carbon, etc... gaining more prominence.

Pagid / Textar / Jurid have been around a long time ... favored by the Porsche crowd but not so popular with the BMW crowd.

Pagid are $$$. We run the two different Pagid yellow compounds (RS-19 and RS-29) on track only cars for sprint and endurance races. Also run the Pagid orange and hawk blue (when available) on track only 356. Dust is not an issue in those applications.

 

i want the pads that stop my car in the shortest distance. It seems oem pads do this?

 

Great comments Jason, it seems that you a different association with braking performance than just a typical BMW owner? As the question states I have been looking into Pagid REd and Cool Carbon. The Cool Carbon are a bit expensive for me so I was considering the Pagid Red which are more price friendly at $100 for all four corners. It seems that most people are leaning towards the Axxis Delux and Akebone Euro. I am still leaning towards the Pagid Red. As far as stopping, I suspect that most pads will stop by car in a satisfactory distance. I don't do too many high speed stops or heavy traffic driving.

 

Great comments Jason, it seems that you a different association with braking performance than just a typical BMW owner?

I drive normal to slow on the street and keep aggressive driving / braking on the track. I don't expect street pads to act like track pads where you have to warm them up and they really only operate "well" within a much narrower range of temperatures. I'm still in search of a low or no dust pad and it doesn't even have to be "rotor friendly" as I'd be willing to shorten rotor life for no or low dust pads. Normally, pads with less aggressive bite (lower coeficient of friction) would be the ones to go with .. now just need to try / find ones with the least amount of dust whether they are organic / ceramic / metallic / etc...

 

Great comments Jason, it seems that you a different association with braking performance than just a typical BMW owner?

I drive normal to slow on the street and keep aggressive driving / braking on the track. I don't expect street pads to act like track pads where you have to warm them up and they really only operate "well" within a much narrower range of temperatures. I'm still in search of a low or no dust pad and it doesn't even have to be "rotor friendly" as I'd be willing to shorten rotor life for no or low dust pads. Normally, pads with less aggressive bite (lower coeficient of friction) would be the ones to go with .. now just need to try / find ones with the least amount of dust whether they are organic / ceramic / metallic / etc...

 

i have used Axxis Deluxe pads (PBR / Axxis) for about 10yrs on different cars with no problems. if you have a DD then Axxis is what you want unless you have a racing car or you like black wheels.

 

I've used Rotex Gold Brake pads on my cars over the past 12 years. For those who prefer metallic over ceramic and want VERY LOW brake dust, this is a great choice.

www.thetruthaboutcars.com/rotex*****-brake-pads-review (for some reason the link keeps replacing the word gold with **** ?!! just type Rotex gold in the search box once you get to that page)

and a more recent one

Some people claim they fade with repeated braking but I haven't encountered any of that. Dust is virtually non-existent for a semi-metallic with great bite.

 

Regarding the effective braking distance with different pad sets, I believe that braking distance for any pad set that can lock up the brake system and cause the ABS to engage is very close to the same, although I have no specific data to back this up. Once the ABS engages, you're braking distance is mostly a function of the ABS and not the pad. The pad will give you a different feel (bite, linear response to pressure, etc.) but I don't think it has as much to do with braking distance than the old days (pre-ABS). Until I see some data to suggest otherwise, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...

 

akebono euro ultra premium, ceramic, no dust, long lasting. I have had them for 20k miles, very happy with them

i do not think that you can save much among brands, I would say it comes down to preferences

 

I used the Pagid pads with Zimmerman rotors from bavauto.com. Good match that is nearly the same in performance to OEM with a little less dust.

 

Crist more info than you ever wanted to know about brake pads. Get yourself some good ceramics (any brand) and roll with it already. :thumbup: