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Hey guys, I've been a long time viewer of this forum and just decided to register. Here in Pa we've gotten pounded by snow and as a result they have laid down salt. I try to keep my car off the roads in these conditions, but sometimes that's impossible. The problem is, I was driving through one area that had particularly large chunks of salt laid down (the size of small rocks) I could hear the chunks peppering my wheel wells when I was driving through. I checked my car afterwards and there wasn't really any damage to the paint, but the plastic wheel well liners were all pitted and felt like sandpaper when I ran my hand over them. Now it might just be my OCD talking, but would it be wise to replace them, or is this just something that would have happened anyway? I honestly never checked them before this incident, so I don't know if they are supposed to get like that or not. My car is relatively new though, only 5 months old.

Thanks for the help!
 
I'm thinking the plastic is probably fine, just get in there really well with a powerwasher next time you're at the carwash so it won't accumulate. I think accumulation and duration are the main causes of corrosion due to salt.
 
You are fine. Contrary to popular belief our cars are really strong and can take a beating. Yes paint may get chipped, but our cars won't die from salt.

When you get a chance get your undercarriage cleaned to remove the salt. I would wait until the weather gets better since doing it now won't really help you.

Besides, think of the salt buildup on your car of Philly being nice and providing you with free de-icing :)
 
Salt doesn't even do any damage below freezing. And even if it is above freezing, a day or two won't hurt. BMW has a pretty solid corrosion warranty anyways so I'd imagine these built they things to handle the occasional salt.
 
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Yeah, there doesn't seem to be much cosmetic damage thankfully. The plastic liners took the brunt of it. They are pretty much pitted from top to bottom, I'm guessing this would happen no matter what the conditions were though eventually.
 
I agree that power washing the undercarriage in the Spring is the best way to deal with salt. Lots of people use the car wash places for this service but I prefer to do it myself when the snow tires are removed. It's a sign of Spring.

You can find Cosmoline in spray cans at industrial supply houses to touch up areas under the car where salt and sand have removed the original waxy coating. Keeping it clean and coated is all that I feel is necessary as the car has galvanized or plastic panels to resist corrosion.

Glad to see that others are interested in long term ownership.
 
Salt itself isn't a corrosive agent (rust is FeO so only compounds containing oxides, like water or acid, will directly corrode iron/steel)--it's a hygroscopic electrolyte, which makes it a powerful catalyst for the corrosion process. In other words, it actually attracts water (the actual corrosive agent) into contact with the iron/iron alloys in your car's chassis or body panels and then, as an electrolyte, aggressively facilitates the electron transfer that characterizes the iron corrosion process.

Fortunately, you won't have a corrosion problem unless the salt is allowed to accumulate and then remain at temperatures above the freezing point of water (ice is comparatively inert). Above freezing, the salt attracts liquid water vapor from the surrounding air which then has a chance to start working on exposed iron or iron alloys (obviously, galvanization slows or otherwise prevents this, since the zinc coating prevents water from coming into contact with the iron underneath). Just take care to spray exposed areas thoroughly with fresh water, particularly if the car is parked or stored in a heated environment or the outside weather is warming to a point above freezing. Salt is also highly soluble, so throw enough fresh water on the car and it will literally wash away. Water won't aggressively bond with the iron without the presence of an effective electrolyte like salt, so fresh water is OK.

Cosmoline isn't a bad idea, though it has a habit of trapping grime. As a hydrocarbon base, it (like any oil) is hydrophobic and will also form an additional chemical barrier between the car and any water that may be nearby. Rifles, machine parts, tools and other iron materials going into long term storage are (or were) often coated in cosmoline, which is effective for decades. You might also consider using a teflon spray on some of the underbody parts and panels. Also, practice good general care techniques: as always, keep your paint in good shape and use a good wax or polish; this will greatly help prevent the development of surface rust on the visible exterior.

Oh--apologies if there is any incorrect or misleading information above--my background is in physics, not chemistry, so I'm reaching all the way back to the general science requirement of my undergraduate education...regardless, with a couple years of hands-on experience in rust-proofing rifle bores, I trust my methods implicitly. Just use ample amounts of fresh water above all else. :)
 
Oh--apologies if there is any incorrect or misleading information above--my background is in physics, not chemistry, so I'm reaching all the way back to the general science requirement of my undergraduate education...regardless, with a couple years of hands-on experience in rust-proofing rifle bores, I trust my methods implicitly. Just use ample amounts of fresh water above all else. :)
Nordic Kat will be contacting you about stealing her thunder.
 
Thank God cars are not built/"rust treated" like the car's of the 80's. The days of getting a rust hole in your car from winter I would assume are over at this day in age. Cars are treated much better from the factory to prevent this.
 
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